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HostAtom (hostatom.com) has been added on Jun 02, 2021.
Host NeverDie (hostneverdie.com) has been added on Mar 30, 2017 and last updated on Nov 16, 2019. Trusted and verified by WHTOP on 2017.
true internet.co.th (trueinternet.co.th) has been added on Jul 09, 2020 and last updated on Sep 27, 2020. Trusted and verified by WHTOP on 2020.

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Total Reviews: 1
Average Rating: 1 / 10
Good Reviews: 0
Bad Reviews: 1
Official Responses: 0
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TH
1293/2 flr 3 Phaholyothin rd. Samsenai Phayathai
Bangkok 10400
TH
18 True Tower, Ratchadaphisek Road, Huai Khwang
Bangkok 10310
TH
Emailsupport@h...hostneverdie@g... 
Phone+662107346602-196-1919, Fax: 02-530-8085+66 (0) 2783-0400
RanksAlexa Rating102,378▲52,963 (lower is better)
Alexa Rank in TH 1,058
SEO MOZ DA/PA25/36Links18,842
Alexa Rating86,377▼-2,411 (lower is better)
Domains2,476▼-2 (higher is better)
Alexa Rank in TH 560
SEO MOZ DA/PA24/47Links61,648
Alexa Rating29,458▲820 (lower is better)
Domains671▼-8 (higher is better)
Alexa Rank in TH 426
SEO MOZ DA/PA32/47Links9,836
Languagesen-US en-US th-TH en-US th-TH
InfoNETWORK TECHNICAL SYSTEM COMPANY LIMITED HostAtom is another famous web hosting company that has been trusted by many big public companies such as Samsung Thailand, Siam Commercial Bank, Krungthai AXA, etc. It can be said that the name is reliable. Shouldn't let us fly away easily Even the starting price is not the cheapest in the market. But overall compared to the quality and features to receive It can almost be called the best value on the market. And there are also often promotional [...] Read full reviewHostNeverDie offers adaptable facilitating administrations, running from Standard Shared Hosting plan to the Enterprise Hosting plan. We likewise offers VPS, and Dedicated server bundles for cutting edge clients. Each of our Web Hosting bundles incorporates day in and day out help, most extreme uptime, and a 15-day unconditional promise. Since its foundation in 2009, HOSTEVERDIE has been a Thailand-driving supplier of web facilitating administration. We have been giving facilitating answers [...] Read full reviewFor over 20 years we have been focusing on and developing internet services. Aim to expand its service to cover all over the country continuously. With a one-stop service and expanding channels of use The unity of technology and leading-edge service Until it has gained the trust of many organizations And quality certification from world-class standards organizations -- lang TH -- กว่า 20 ปี ที่เราใส่ใจและพัฒนาบริการอินเทอร์เน็ต มุ่งมั่นขยายบริการให้ครอบคลุมทั่วประเทศอย่างต่อเนื่อง [...] Read full review
Site speedVery fast, load time 0.9 seconds 80% sites are slower
SEO Links count 74
Very fast, load time 0.5 seconds 95% sites are slower
SEO Links count 125
Fast, load time 1.9 seconds 46% sites are slower
SEO Links count 207
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hostatom.com Iconhostatomdotcom
Started from: August, 2017
  • Tweets: 942
  • Followers: 28
  • Friends: 0
  • Last activity: Dec 2, 2021

hostneverdie.com Iconhostneverdie
Started from: May, 2010
  • Tweets: 9
  • Followers: 446
  • Friends: 123
  • Last activity: May 21, 2020

trueinternet.co.th Icontrue_internet
Started from: February, 2010
  • Tweets: 0
  • Followers: 5
  • Friends: 0

https://www.facebook.com/hostatomdotcomhostneverdie.com IconHOSTNEVERDIE Web Hosting
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  • Last activity: Aug 24, 2019

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  • Blog Posts: 22
  • Software Wordpress version 5.8.2
  • First post from: Apr, 2021
  • Last written post: Aug 20, 2021

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Shared Hosting - 0/7/1
Plan Name-Baby [Linux]Web Hosting [Linux/Windows]
Price-THB 599.00/yr. VAT 7% excon request
Disk Space-10 GBunlimited
Data Transfer-unmeteredunmetered
Hosted domains-1unlimited
Free Domain-00
Dedicated IPs-00
Control Panel-DirectAdmin
Server Location-ThailandThailand
Description-INFO (mouse over)Databases 3

Bandwidth 2 MB

Get Started with HOSTNEVERDIE Web Hosting Today!

Hostneverdie is one of Thailand's top 10 largest web hosting companies with more than 8,000 hosted domains.
We serve you hosting services using enterprise servers from
Cisco making us the perfect choice whether you are [...]
INFO (mouse over)Linux Features
Support Redhat Enterprise Linux 5 Operating System
Easy-to-use control panel
Upload files using FTP or File Manager allow both of FTP and File Manager uploads
Password protection system
Easy-to-use website backup system
Sub domain and domain alias service

Windows [...]
Date Plan-May 2020Sep 2020
Plan Name-Kiddie [Linux]-
Price-THB 777.00/yr. VAT 7% exc-
Disk Space-15 GB-
Data Transfer-unmetered-
Hosted domains-1-
Free Domain-0-
Dedicated IPs-0-
Control Panel-DirectAdmin-
Server Location-Thailand-
Description-INFO (mouse over)Databases 7

Get Started with HOSTNEVERDIE Web Hosting Today!

Hostneverdie is one of Thailand's top 10 largest web hosting companies with more than 8,000 hosted domains.
We serve you hosting services using enterprise servers from
Cisco making us the perfect choice whether you are looking to host [...]
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Date Plan-Nov 2019-
Plan Name-Business [Linux]-
Price-THB 1,199.00/yr. VAT 7% exc-
Disk Space-20 GB-
Data Transfer-unmetered-
Hosted domains-2-
Free Domain-0-
Dedicated IPs-0-
Control Panel-DirectAdmin-
Server Location-Thailand-
Description-INFO (mouse over)Databases UNLIMITED

Get Started with HOSTNEVERDIE Web Hosting Today!

Hostneverdie is one of Thailand's top 10 largest web hosting companies with more than 8,000 hosted domains.
We serve you hosting services using enterprise servers from
Cisco making us the perfect choice whether you are looking [...]
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Date Plan-Nov 2019-
Plan Name-Business-Pro [Linux]-
Price-THB 1,199.00/yr. VAT 7% exc-
Disk Space-20 GB-
Data Transfer-5 GB-
Hosted domains-unlimited-
Free Domain-0-
Dedicated IPs-0-
Control Panel-DirectAdmin-
Server Location-Thailand-
Description-INFO (mouse over)Databases 10
Get Started with HOSTNEVERDIE Web Hosting Today!

Hostneverdie is one of Thailand's top 10 largest web hosting companies with more than 8,000 hosted domains.
We serve you hosting services using enterprise servers from
Cisco making us the perfect choice whether you are looking to host [...]
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Date Plan-Nov 2019-
Plan Name-Enterprise [Linux]-
Price-THB 1,799.00/yr. VAT 7% exc-
Disk Space-30 GB-
Data Transfer-unmetered-
Hosted domains-5-
Free Domain-1-
Dedicated IPs-0-
Control Panel-DirectAdmin-
Server Location-Thailand-
Description-INFO (mouse over)Databases UNLIMITED

Hostneverdie is one of Thailand's top 10 largest web hosting companies with more than 8,000 hosted domains.
We serve you hosting services using enterprise servers from
Cisco making us the perfect choice whether you are looking to host a business or a personal site.
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Date Plan-Nov 2019-
Plan Name-Enterprise-Xtreme [Linux]-
Price-THB 1,799.00/yr. VAT 7% exc-
Disk Space-30 GB-
Data Transfer-15 GB-
Hosted domains-unlimited-
Free Domain-0-
Dedicated IPs-0-
Control Panel-DirectAdmin-
Server Location-Thailand-
Description-INFO (mouse over)Databases 15

Hostneverdie is one of Thailand's top 10 largest web hosting companies with more than 8,000 hosted domains.
We serve you hosting services using enterprise servers from
Cisco making us the perfect choice whether you are looking to host a business or a personal site.
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Date Plan-Nov 2019-
Plan Name-ULTIMATE [Linux]-
Price-THB 2,499.00/yr. VAT 7% exc-
Disk Space-unlimited-
Data Transfer-unmetered-
Hosted domains-unlimited-
Free Domain-0-
Dedicated IPs-0-
Control Panel-DirectAdmin-
Server Location-Thailand-
Description-INFO (mouse over)Databases UNLIMITED

- We include a free domain name, which cost 349 THB /year throughout our services.
- This applies only to certain domain extension, which is.com.
- This offers is valid onyl when you choose Enterprise Host plan, Enterprise-Xtreme Host Plan, or Ultimate! Host [...]
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Date Plan-Nov 2019-
Dedicated Hosting - 0/3/0
Plan Name-Intel Server Standard [Linux]-
Price-$ 4,900.00/mo. VAT 7% exc-
Disk Space-500 GB-
Data Transfer-unmetered-
Hosted domains-unlimited-
Free Domain-0-
CPU-Intel Core I3 I3-530 2.93 GHz-
Dedicated IPs-1-
Control Panel- -
Server Location-Thailand-
Description-INFO (mouse over)Hostneverdie offers you high quality dedicated server at an affordable price. It is suitable for large websites or business websites that requires maximum uptime. We host your servers at the leading internet data centers in Thailand.

- 4 GB DDR3 Memory
- Unlimited Bandwidth
12 months installment [...]
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Date Plan-Nov 2019-
Plan Name-DELL PowerEdge R210 II - Standard
[Linux/Windows]
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Price-THB 6,500.00/mo. VAT 7% exc-
Disk Space-500 GB-
Data Transfer-unmetered-
Hosted domains-unlimited-
Free Domain-0-
CPU-Intel Xeon E3-1230 (4 core 8 thread)-
Dedicated IPs-1-
Control Panel- -
Server Location-Thailand-
Description-INFO (mouse over)Hostneverdie offers you high quality dedicated server at an affordable price. It is suitable for large websites or business websites that requires maximum uptime. We host your servers at the leading internet data centers in Thailand.

- Intel Xeon E3-1230 (4 core 8 thread)
- 4 GB DDR3 Memory
12 [...]
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Date Plan-Nov 2019-
Plan Name-DELL PowerEdge R210 II - Elite
[Linux/Windows]
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Price-THB 7,000.00/mo. VAT 7% exc-
Disk Space-1000 GB-
Data Transfer-unmetered-
Hosted domains-unlimited-
Free Domain-0-
CPU-Intel Xeon E3-1230 (4 core 8 thread)-
Dedicated IPs-1-
Control Panel- -
Server Location-Thailand-
Description-INFO (mouse over)Hostneverdie offers you high quality dedicated server at an affordable price. It is suitable for large websites or business websites that requires maximum uptime. We host your servers at the leading internet data centers in Thailand.

- Intel Xeon E3-1230 (4 core 8 thread)
- 8 GB DDR3 Memory
12 [...]
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Date Plan-Nov 2019-
Reseller Hosting - 0/5/0
Plan Name-Titanium [Linux]-
Price-THB 299.00/mo. VAT 7% exc-
Disk Space-20 GB-
Data Transfer-unmetered-
Hosted domains-5-
Free Domain-0-
Dedicated IPs-0-
Control Panel- -
Server Location-Thailand-
Description-INFO (mouse over)Latest DirectAdmin Control Panel
Complete Control: packages creation, account creation, etc.
Complete Website Statistics
Brandable Client Panel
UNLIMITED Sub Domains
UNLIMITED Email Accounts
UNLIMITED MySQL Databases
UNLIMITED FTP Accounts
Prevent spam with SpamAssassin
PRIVATE Name [...]
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Date Plan-Nov 2019-
Plan Name-Silver [Linux]-
Price-THB 449.00/mo. VAT 7% exc-
Disk Space-40 GB-
Data Transfer-unmetered-
Hosted domains-10-
Free Domain-0-
Dedicated IPs-0-
Control Panel- -
Server Location-Thailand-
Description-Same as previous plans-
Date Plan-Nov 2019-
Plan Name-Gold [Linux]-
Price-THB 549.00/mo. VAT 7% exc-
Disk Space-60 GB-
Data Transfer-unmetered-
Hosted domains-15-
Free Domain-0-
Dedicated IPs-0-
Control Panel- -
Server Location-Thailand-
Description-Same as previous plans-
Date Plan-Nov 2019-
Plan Name-Platinum [Linux]-
Price-THB 599.00/mo. VAT 7% exc-
Disk Space-80 GB-
Data Transfer-unmetered-
Hosted domains-20-
Free Domain-0-
Dedicated IPs-0-
Control Panel- -
Server Location-Thailand-
Description-Same as previous plans-
Date Plan-Nov 2019-
Plan Name-Diamond [Linux]-
Price-THB 777.00/mo. VAT 7% exc-
Disk Space-120 GB-
Data Transfer-unmetered-
Hosted domains-unlimited-
Free Domain-0-
Dedicated IPs-0-
Control Panel- -
Server Location-Thailand-
Description-Same as previous plans-
Date Plan-Nov 2019-
VPS - 0/6/2
Plan Name-Economy [Linux]TI Virtual Server [Linux]
Price-THB 999.00/mo. VAT 7% excon request
Disk Space-50 GBunlimited
Data Transfer-unmeteredunmetered
Hosted domains-unlimitedunlimited
Free Domain-00
CPU--Intel Xeon Processor
RAM-1 GB1 GB
Dedicated IPs-11
Control Panel- CentOS Web Panel
Server Location-ThailandThailand
Description-INFO (mouse over)We deliver extreme quality at an affordable price.

UNLIMITED Bandwidth ! for all VPS Hosting Plan

FREE ! Directadmin Web Control Panel for all VPS Plan

With full root access, you're able to customize virtually anything as if your VPS were a dedicated server

FAST, RELIABLE, and SECURE with DELL [...]
INFO (mouse over)SAN Storage with RAID
1 IP Address
Unlimited Data Transfer
Network Interface via Gigabit Ethernet
Network redundancy with UPS and Power Generator
Support
Microsoft Windows Server
(Web Edition, Standard Edition and Enterprise Edition)
Linux Operating System such as
Red Hat Enterprise Linux, CentOS [...]
Date Plan-Nov 2019Sep 2020
Plan Name-Standard [Linux]DIY Virtual Server [Linux]
Price-THB 1,499.00/mo. VAT 7% excon request
Disk Space-70 GBunlimited
Data Transfer-unmeteredunmetered
Hosted domains-unlimitedunlimited
Free Domain-00
CPU--Intel Xeon Processor
RAM-2 GB2 GB
Dedicated IPs-11
Control Panel- CentOS Web Panel
Server Location-ThailandThailand
Description-Same as previous plansINFO (mouse over)SAN Storage with RAID
1 IP Address
Unlimited Data Transfer
Network Interface via Gigabit Ethernet
Network redundancy with UPS and Power Generator
Support
Microsoft Windows Server
(Web Edition, Standard Edition and Enterprise Edition)
Linux Operating System such as
Redhat Enterprise Linux, CentOS [...]
Date Plan-Nov 2019Sep 2020
Plan Name-Premium [Linux]-
Price-THB 1,999.00/mo. VAT 7% exc-
Disk Space-100 GB-
Data Transfer-unmetered-
Hosted domains-unlimited-
Free Domain-0-
CPU---
Dedicated IPs-1-
Control Panel- -
Server Location-Thailand-
Description-Same as previous plans-
Date Plan-Nov 2019-
Plan Name-Luxury [Linux]-
Price-THB 2,499.00/mo. VAT 7% exc-
Disk Space-150 GB-
Data Transfer-unmetered-
Hosted domains-unlimited-
Free Domain-0-
CPU---
Dedicated IPs-1-
Control Panel- -
Server Location-Thailand-
Description-Same as previous plans-
Date Plan-Nov 2019-
Plan Name-Grand [Linux]-
Price-THB 2,999.00/mo. VAT 7% exc-
Disk Space-250 GB-
Data Transfer-unmetered-
Hosted domains-unlimited-
Free Domain-0-
CPU---
Dedicated IPs-1-
Control Panel- -
Server Location-Thailand-
Description-Same as previous plans-
Date Plan-Nov 2019-
Plan Name-Elite [Linux]-
Price-THB 3,499.00/mo. VAT 7% exc-
Disk Space-500 GB-
Data Transfer-unmetered-
Hosted domains-unlimited-
Free Domain-0-
CPU---
Dedicated IPs-1-
Control Panel- -
Server Location-Thailand-
Description-Same as previous plans-
Date Plan-Nov 2019-
Supported Operating Systems
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  • Linux
  • Linux/Windows
  • Linux/Windows
  • Linux
List of products
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  • Shared Hosting
  • Dedicated Hosting
  • Reseller Hosting
  • VPS
  • Domains
  • SSL Certificates
  • Shared Hosting
  • VPS
  • Colocation Hosting
  • Emails
Support Options
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  • Email
  • Help Desk
  • 0 WHTop support responses
  • Email
  • Help Desk
  • Phone / Toll-Free
  • 0 WHTop support responses
Payment Options
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  • Credit / Debit / Prepaid Cards
  • Wire Transfer
  • Credit / Debit / Prepaid Cards
Last positive / negative customers review
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-anonymous- (-hidden-)
on Aug 15, 2021
I stayed with hostneverdie.com for many years, but their hosting panel is not as good as cpanel, the uptime is horrible (I use uptimerobot.com to verify this) and their pricing isn't as low as some others like deedeehost.com where I moved to.i [...]

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    Bad Reviews: 0
    Official Responses: 0

    Alexa Rating189,934▲12,801
    SEO MOZ DA/PA33/49Links27,787

  • netway.co.th logo
    Netway
    Profile completion status:
    Things done
    Company address location is complete
    Company phone/fax is added
    Company Twitter and Facebook accounts are added
    "About page" URL or "Contact page" URLs are added
    Forum, Blog/Announcements, Knowledgebase or FAQ URLs are added
    Products (plans) are added
    Note: Add a promotion or coupon

    Things to do
    Company descriptions is too short. Minimum 500 chars
    86%


    Alexa Rating201,292▼-5,174
    Domains3,416▼-15
    SEO MOZ DA/PA24/47Links7,808

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  • igetweb.com logo
    IGetWeb
    Profile completion status:
    Things done
    Note: Company descriptions is short. Recommended 1000 chars
    Company address location is complete
    Company phone/fax is added
    Company Twitter and Facebook accounts are added
    "About page" URL or "Contact page" URLs are added
    Products (plans) are added
    Note: Add a promotion or coupon

    Things to do
    Forum, Blog/Announcements, Knowledgebase or FAQ URLs are missing
    86%


    Alexa Rating104,095▲25,759
    SEO MOZ DA/PA42/58Links1,719,483

  • bangmod.cloud logo
    Gangmod.cloud
    Profile completion status:
    Things done
    Company address location is complete
    Company phone/fax is added
    Company Twitter and Facebook accounts are added
    Note: Add a promotion or coupon

    Things to do
    Company descriptions is too short. Minimum 500 chars
    "About page" URL or "Contact page" URLs are missing
    Forum, Blog/Announcements, Knowledgebase or FAQ URLs are missing
    Products (plans) are missing
    43%


    Alexa Rating137,879▲18,463
    Domains4,188▲85
    SEO MOZ DA/PA27/35Links3,118

  • hostinglotus.com logo
    Hosting Lotus
    Profile completion status:
    Things done
    Company address location is complete
    Company phone/fax is added
    "About page" URL or "Contact page" URLs are added
    Forum, Blog/Announcements, Knowledgebase or FAQ URLs are added
    Products (plans) are added
    Note: Add a promotion or coupon

    Things to do
    Company descriptions is too short. Minimum 500 chars
    Twitter account is missing
    71%


    Alexa Rating149,403▼-24,905
    Domains21,080▼-23
    SEO MOZ DA/PA15/47Links10,278

  • pathosting.co.th logo
    P&T Hosting
    Profile completion status:
    Things done
    Note: Company descriptions is short. Recommended 1000 chars
    Company address location is complete
    Company phone/fax is added
    Company Twitter and Facebook accounts are added
    "About page" URL or "Contact page" URLs are added
    Products (plans) are added
    Note: Add a promotion or coupon

    Things to do
    Forum, Blog/Announcements, Knowledgebase or FAQ URLs are missing
    86%


    Alexa Rating165,311▼-676
    SEO MOZ DA/PA25/46Links3,381

  • deedeehost.com logo
    DeeDeeHost
    Profile completion status:
    Things done
    Company descriptions is fine
    Company address location is complete
    Company phone/fax is added
    Company Twitter and Facebook accounts are added
    "About page" URL or "Contact page" URLs are added
    Forum, Blog/Announcements, Knowledgebase or FAQ URLs are added
    Products (plans) are added
    Promotions are added

    100%

    Total Reviews: 1
    Average Rating: 10 / 10
    Good Reviews: 1
    Bad Reviews: 0
    Official Responses: 1

    Alexa Rating165,505▼-4,196,165
    SEO MOZ DA/PA11/17Links45

  • netdesignhost.com logo
    NetDesign Host
    Profile completion status:
    Things done
    Company descriptions is fine
    Company address location is complete
    Company phone/fax is added
    Company Twitter and Facebook accounts are added
    "About page" URL or "Contact page" URLs are added
    Products (plans) are added
    Note: Add a promotion or coupon

    Things to do
    Forum, Blog/Announcements, Knowledgebase or FAQ URLs are missing
    86%


    Alexa Rating173,194▼-1,137
    Domains3,738▼-38
    SEO MOZ DA/PA25/46Links37,439

  • thnic.co.th logo
    thnic.co.th
    Profile completion status:
    Things done
    Company address location is complete
    Company phone/fax is added
    "About page" URL or "Contact page" URLs are added
    Products (plans) are added
    Note: Add a promotion or coupon

    Things to do
    Company descriptions is too short. Minimum 500 chars
    Twitter account is missing
    Forum, Blog/Announcements, Knowledgebase or FAQ URLs are missing
    57%

    Total Reviews: 1
    Average Rating: 8 / 10
    Good Reviews: 1
    Bad Reviews: 0
    Official Responses: 0

    Alexa Rating189,934▲12,801
    SEO MOZ DA/PA33/49Links27,787

  • netway.co.th logo
    Netway
    Profile completion status:
    Things done
    Company address location is complete
    Company phone/fax is added
    Company Twitter and Facebook accounts are added
    "About page" URL or "Contact page" URLs are added
    Forum, Blog/Announcements, Knowledgebase or FAQ URLs are added
    Products (plans) are added
    Note: Add a promotion or coupon

    Things to do
    Company descriptions is too short. Minimum 500 chars
    86%


    Alexa Rating201,292▼-5,174
    Domains3,416▼-15
    SEO MOZ DA/PA24/47Links7,808